tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9204080274406469.post8825326893621255325..comments2023-05-27T01:23:41.984-07:00Comments on Barbaric Poetries: Def Jammin' with Kanyechristopher lirettehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07995726854485863726noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9204080274406469.post-50952058745522382682012-05-08T12:35:54.501-07:002012-05-08T12:35:54.501-07:00I believe the last line of your post relates a lot...I believe the last line of your post relates a lot to the conversation we had in class about how the even though the black rappers are making money, the white man is still making a profit because they own the record companies. In this instance though, he is talking about how the white man is above the black man in the drug trade. He is saying no matter how much money the black drug dealers are making, the white men are still going to profit off of them, whether it be the executives at Jordan or the higher ups in the drug trade.<br /><br />In response to the conversation about how this applies to Kanye, I agree with Tia that it does apply to him because he is a black man. But I don't think it relates as much as it could because he was never a drug dealer or raised in poor conditions. However, I guess that does not matter because it is a persona that Kanye creates for himself; it's not actually about him, per se.sohny15https://www.blogger.com/profile/06871125662389034115noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9204080274406469.post-72464006365437050102012-05-08T01:31:14.846-07:002012-05-08T01:31:14.846-07:00I think the last line that you added in the post, ...I think the last line that you added in the post, is a clear indication of Kanye's focus on racial discrimination in the world today. Jordans are popular shoes in the black community, so his use of Jordans suggest that he is referring to black drug dealers. When he says and the white man get's paid off of all of that, he can mean two things. One, that since Jordans are sold by companies owned by white men, they are profiting from the drug dealers, or that they are profiting of of the drugs that are giving to the drug dealers. Black drug dealers have to get their supply of drugs from people higher in their industry and most of those people higher up are not black, but white.<br />And while Kanye west is creating a persona, what he is saying does still apply to him as a person because he is a black male. He mentions the view of black people in the eys of others, and since he is black, he would be viewed the same way.Tiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10583614067509761832noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9204080274406469.post-67170042115572930012012-05-05T12:31:22.499-07:002012-05-05T12:31:22.499-07:00While it may be true that Kanye is not a "thu...While it may be true that Kanye is not a "thug, dealing crack, running from the police," as we have discussed in class, these rappers are simply creating a persona. This is not necessarily Kanye's life story, but rather an issue that his persona is facing.<br /><br />Furthermore, I believe that comparing "All Falls Down" the song, to the poem, is an interesting idea. In the poem, Kanye adds, "This morning I spent a lot of time picking out my clothes, I'm going to be the best dressed rapper in hip hop." In addition, he speaks in a nervous and shaky voice throughout much of the first verse especially(self conscious). These two extras, we do not see in the song version of "All Falls Down," but add to the self conscious feeling. In contrast, Kanye has more of a confident voice in the song, which although we can still recognize the self conscious feeling through his diction, contradicts his overall tone.<br /><br />While in this case, I feel that Kanye's rap version of the song is much more enjoyable tonally, his poem version utilizes a voice that better fits the self conscious message of the lyrics.Jason Schwabhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14053099127524623087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9204080274406469.post-14307060401962472422012-05-05T09:53:35.375-07:002012-05-05T09:53:35.375-07:00What Kanye is rapping about, racial discrimination...What Kanye is rapping about, racial discrimination, does exist. However, in his case, he is rapping about things that don't apply to him. He was never a thug dealing crack running from the police, only to benefit the white community. This does exist, but he is a wealthy African American to whom this does not apply. Therefore, he is rapping about an issue he does not know about first hand. Although his message may be true, having not experienced what he is rapping about, these lyrics are all hypothetical.Kelvinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05403153812771898797noreply@blogger.com